Cloning Dinosaurs? Purley Science Fiction

GreenEarth

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We can still attempt to genetically engineer dinosaur-like creatures, although I'd figure that it'd be very hard to find the capital for such an expensive, risky, and questionably ethical venture.
Yeah I'd imagine if you took a chicken and were incredibly bad ass at modifying genomes you'd be able to turn on and off particular genes (if that is how it works) to make it resemble a dinosaur.

EDIT:
I call shenanigans on that age :p
wait why? I'm confused.
 

oozinator

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Also while trying to find the excavation scene on YT, I stumbled upon this:


Series playlist here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QouBQAMKwE&list=PL88C277061FD8F0B5&feature=plcp

Warning: Do not focus on the raptors' movements for extended periods of time. They can be seizure-inducing.
 

digitalzombie

Active Member
wait (correct me if I'm wrong) I heard their was a frozen caveman named Ötzi found about 20 years ago, why can't they clone that?
 

jrl51592

Active Member
Yeah I'd imagine if you took a chicken and were incredibly bad ass at modifying genomes you'd be able to turn on and off particular genes (if that is how it works) to make it resemble a dinosaur.
Scientist have actually modified the genes in chicken embryos and made some grow teeth and some to grow a tail. So it's very much possible to bring dinosaurs back.
 

TheGurw

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Is it ethical to clone a human being?
Personal belief: Yes, perfectly ethical provided said human understands as much as possible about the process and likely life of the clone, and agrees.


EDIT: As for dead humans, why not?
 

Pasaria

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Personal belief: Yes, perfectly ethical provided said human understands as much as possible about the process and likely life of the clone, and agrees.


EDIT: As for dead humans, why not?
What about from the standpoint of the clone? They would be a fully functioning and conscious human.
 

TheGurw

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What about from the standpoint of the clone? They would be a fully functioning and conscious human.
Inform them of it when they are old enough to understand the concept. Same general thing you do with an adopted child that you adopted at a very young age. They're otherwise normal, so there shouldn't be any issues. I would, however, make a point that the modern ID of the clone is kept secret until they choose to announce their origin themselves, to reduce any chance of publicity issues. They can't develop normally if they're under a media microscope their whole lives.
 

moondoggy23

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Scientist have actually modified the genes in chicken embryos and made some grow teeth and some to grow a tail. So it's very much possible to bring dinosaurs back.

There's a difference between cloning a dinosaur and genetically modifying another animal to make it resemble a dinosaur. What you're describing would seem to be "re-engineering" the chicken to more resemble something reptilian in nature. I don't think it's concievable to tinker with a few lines of genetic code and *poof* you've made a velociraptor from a canary.
 

GreenEarth

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There's a difference between cloning a dinosaur and genetically modifying another animal to make it resemble a dinosaur. What you're describing would seem to be "re-engineering" the chicken to more resemble something reptilian in nature. I don't think it's concievable to tinker with a few lines of genetic code and *poof* you've made a velociraptor from a canary.
All of that was implied, our understanding of how genomes work is hopelessly shitty. In my genomics class every other phrase is "we aren't totally sure how that works" and "we have absolutely no idea how this works". Almost two thirds of the human genome is repetitive sequences and transposable elements (sequences that can move around copying itself), some viruses even add sequence to genomes.
 

GreenEarth

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Good news, was talking to my genomics professor today, he verified that theoretically at absolute zero a DNA molecule would be in complete molecular standstill and not decay, since there would be no molecular movement. The closer you get to absolute zero −273.15 C the more molecular movement will slow down and hinder decay. Now it's a question of where it was really cold back in the day and has stayed cold.
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So maybe somewhere in Antarctica there is a possibility that some tiny amount of tissue has been preserved. Further inland probably. According to wiki the mean annual temperature of the interior is −57°C, I'm not sure if it gets even colder underground, I know thermal inertia keeps temperatures underground pretty constant but I dunno how magma affects underground temperatures.

In any case I still have hope in the far far future.
 
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