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Feature request: improvements for tutorial quiz

Teircen

Active Member
The tutorial quiz is great. I love it. I wish more new people wouldn't skip it. We can always tell those that do.
Where can I mine? Did you do the quiz? Yes... riiiiight.

Regardless of how much I like that quiz it does have some small holes that could be easily patched with a few minor revisions.

#1) Revise signs in question #5 to make it more apparent we call it the Mining World.

It states "To mine for resources you must teleport into the Wilderness. This mining world is not for building. There are no protections."

Unfortunately this sends new players looking for "The Wildness" and the signs leading to it state "To Mining World."

It should read "To mine for resources you must teleport to the Mining World. This wilderness is not for building. There are no protections."

And the answer sign should also read: "To mine for resources I will warp to the Mining World".
This will make it clearer that the Mining World signs mean exactly that and they shouldn't be looking for the Wilderness by leaving Spawn area on foot.

#2) There should be signs on the Mining World side of the portal that state:
"Safe Area. No mining permitted." "Walk outside the Safe Area to Mine."

Once new players do find the mining world they have no idea there's a safe zone around it. Half the time "Where can I mine" means "I either didn't read the rules or didn't understand so I'm trying to mine in the Wilderness outside Spawn area" and half the time it means "I'm in the Mining World so why can't I mine?"

There's no indication of a Safe Area so once they get through the confusion of "Wilderness" means "Mining World" and get to Mining World they're very frustrated by the fact they still can't mine and start asking for permissions or if they're in the right place even. It makes us look bad and since half the time (or more) everyone assumes they're request means they haven't done the tutorial quiz the new players get angry responses like "Go take the quiz again" which likely only pisses them off and shows we don't really care or want them here.

By placing these signs in the Mining World by portal it means they don't have to digest that information during the quiz (where some already feel overloaded in spite of it being a mere 5 questions) and provides them this detail when they most need it.

#3) Rules page - under Navigation, consider adding "There are no teleports on this server".
One of the first things a lot of new people ask (and many of us constantly are answering) is that there are no teleports. The closest we have is /suicide which returns you to Spawn without your gear or any experience you may have.

#4) Rules page - under Bannable Offenses, consider adding "You must be 14 or older to play on this server"
We're frequently explaining to others (often non-US minors) that this is a US server adhering to US federal COPPA laws and do not permit youths age 13 or below to play.
 

MrFrog90

Well-Known Member
The tutorial quiz is great. I love it. I wish more new people wouldn't skip it. We can always tell those that do.
Where can I mine? Did you do the quiz? Yes... riiiiight.

Regardless of how much I like that quiz it does have some small holes that could be easily patched with a few minor revisions.

#1) Revise signs in question #5 to make it more apparent we call it the Mining World.

It states "To mine for resources you must teleport into the Wilderness. This mining world is not for building. There are no protections."

Unfortunately this sends new players looking for "The Wildness" and the signs leading to it state "To Mining World."

It should read "To mine for resources you must teleport to the Mining World. This wilderness is not for building. There are no protections."

And the answer sign should also read: "To mine for resources I will warp to the Mining World".
This will make it clearer that the Mining World signs mean exactly that and they shouldn't be looking for the Wilderness by leaving Spawn area on foot.

#2) There should be signs on the Mining World side of the portal that state:
"Safe Area. No mining permitted." "Walk outside the Safe Area to Mine."

Once new players do find the mining world they have no idea there's a safe zone around it. Half the time "Where can I mine" means "I either didn't read the rules or didn't understand so I'm trying to mine in the Wilderness outside Spawn area" and half the time it means "I'm in the Mining World so why can't I mine?"

There's no indication of a Safe Area so once they get through the confusion of "Wilderness" means "Mining World" and get to Mining World they're very frustrated by the fact they still can't mine and start asking for permissions or if they're in the right place even. It makes us look bad and since half the time (or more) everyone assumes they're request means they haven't done the tutorial quiz the new players get angry responses like "Go take the quiz again" which likely only pisses them off and shows we don't really care or want them here.

By placing these signs in the Mining World by portal it means they don't have to digest that information during the quiz (where some already feel overloaded in spite of it being a mere 5 questions) and provides them this detail when they most need it.

#3) Rules page - under Navigation, consider adding "There are no teleports on this server".
One of the first things a lot of new people ask (and many of us constantly are answering) is that there are no teleports. The closest we have is /suicide which returns you to Spawn without your gear or any experience you may have.

#4) Rules page - under Bannable Offenses, consider adding "You must be 14 or older to play on this server"
We're frequently explaining to others (often non-US minors) that this is a US server adhering to US federal COPPA laws and do not permit youths age 13 or below to play.
Its 13 or older.
 

lacar1601

Well-Known Member
Its 13 or older.

"...and do not permit youths age '13 or older' to play?"
We are all royally screwed! :eek:

Anyway, these sound like good ideas for an admin to consider. You should submit each of your points as a feature request on the Mantis bug tracker so that Ozy or Woot actually read them. The link is just above your OP, Teircen.

My comments:
1) I agree that the sign should be changed to "Mining World" so as to avoid confusion. Also, include more signs within the spawn HQ that direct newcomers to the mining world portal.
2) I think I am mistaken, but I thought that the server delivers notes regarding this through the in-game chat once we enter the mining world.
3 + 4) I believe we as members can edit the wiki, and can add these things by ourselves. Still, don't take my word for it.
 

Teircen

Active Member
Posted to tracker. Didn't realize that link went to the tracker.

2) I think it only gives you the notices as you enter/leave Safe Area. When you first zone through the portal I don't recall seeing one. If you even do get one, then I think most people miss it and it won't repeat so they run around inside the Safe Area trying to mine and failing to understand why they can't.
 

TheGurw

Well-Known Member
aaaaand the safe area is rather large. I run across it and half-starve by the time i get out of it -_-
 
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