Joshuame13
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All the moderators should be able to do is kick/ban/mute related commands, nothing else.
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Perhaps block history in beta?
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Ustulo
Well-Known Member
I think that is all that is needed. They wouldn't let people go on a banning spree of anybody they have ever had a feud with, no insanity like that. We had a talk about on the survival server, and we agreed that we couldn't just attack at anybody we didn't like.
Ustulo
Well-Known Member
I don't think ban is really needed. It allows too much for issues of banning sprees when people get frustrated.
Joshuame13
Active Member
I guess only TRUE admin should ban. But I have seen cases in classic where there was only an engineer on (lzice) and he kicked a guy who was being EXTREMELY difficult 6 times and he was mad he couldn't ban him.
im3nuron
Well-Known Member
Again, power hungry people. This is why I have an issue with this. It's causing another way for people to gain status. The feeling of high status in a community is a good one, and we have had issues with this before. Now it's not like I'm saying that adding another tier of ranks would be a train wreck of an idea, but I think you know what I mean.
Ustulo
Well-Known Member
I could see issues, but usually a kick is enough to temporarily stop a troll.
Joshuame13
Active Member
Only if the person cares about being on the server. Maybe a kick should = a 1 hour ban, if possible.
EDIT: Then again, you did say usually.
Ustulo
Well-Known Member
I don't think it is a status purpose. At least for me, the purpose of this would be to better the server, and to take some of the work off the backs of the admins, I'm sure many of us are up to this challenge.
I can see how, in the proper light, this can be a choice of Scylla and Charybdis, the choice between two evils, with players going mad with power, or letting the server go to the griefers. However, by limiting who becomes a moderator, and by also limiting the power given by being a moderator, the system just might work.
And yes, I see what you're saying.
Joshuame13
Active Member
I don't like being called power hungry. It makes me question myself.
im3nuron
Well-Known Member
Well after posts saying,
I don't know how someone can not see that as a hunger for power.
Joshuame13
Active Member
Sorry, that's not what I'm trying to say. I guess it kinda sounds like it, though.
im3nuron
Well-Known Member
Well, I feel like I've already stated my point. OFF TO ANOTHER THREAD! DANANANANANA!
Joshuame13
Active Member
Oh yea. here's a pros/cons list. Feel free to add to it in your posts:
Pros: server is safer.
grief gets dealt with instead of ignored.
less annoying people.
Less racism/hitler related comments
less trolling
Cons: people may get carried away, or ban too hastily.
"with great power comes great responsibility" and some people lack responsibility.
Pros: server is safer.
grief gets dealt with instead of ignored.
less annoying people.
Less racism/hitler related comments
less trolling
Cons: people may get carried away, or ban too hastily.
"with great power comes great responsibility" and some people lack responsibility.
Ustulo
Well-Known Member
Actually, I must point out that most of the recent ban requests are for trolling, racism and the like.
Joshuame13
Active Member
I edited the list for that.
Tsysin
Well-Known Member
Tsysin
Well-Known Member
It all honesty; I've made a prior post stating my feeling about how we as players feel let up to our own with no moderation.....This is still true today obviously..
However we do need to be honest with each other and realize that any band aid solution will only last approximately two weeks (Complete Guesstimate). I would rather we continue on as is than try to 'make something happen' cause that could be even worse. Most of the current active players on survival (Trolls who have only logged in for five minutes....go Away).
The Administration staff (Woot, etc) need kudo's for being one of the rare places where PR's are actively being played; however the flip side of the coin being that 'new players' are being turned off by their first impressions of what happens...
My personal recommendation in the interim would be to have Tbarius (one of the more active Survival players who is a recent Creative Engineer) move back from Creative to monitor Survival in a similar role to his creative role if that is possible. I think most active players would also welcome such a solution for the short term.
However we do need to be honest with each other and realize that any band aid solution will only last approximately two weeks (Complete Guesstimate). I would rather we continue on as is than try to 'make something happen' cause that could be even worse. Most of the current active players on survival (Trolls who have only logged in for five minutes....go Away).
The Administration staff (Woot, etc) need kudo's for being one of the rare places where PR's are actively being played; however the flip side of the coin being that 'new players' are being turned off by their first impressions of what happens...
My personal recommendation in the interim would be to have Tbarius (one of the more active Survival players who is a recent Creative Engineer) move back from Creative to monitor Survival in a similar role to his creative role if that is possible. I think most active players would also welcome such a solution for the short term.
t7seven7t
Active Member
The whole backend to add permissions and actually allow someone to moderate the server has not been updated for 1.9 and is not being updated until the release of Minecraft.