PS4 Rumors

moondoggy23

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IGN recently posted an article on it's website with some details from a "trusted source" from Kotaku detailing some features of the next Playstation console, codenamed Orbis. The new console is rumored to be release Holiday of 2013, and have no backwards compatibility and the inability to play pre-owned games. Speculation is the console will somehow register the game disc to the gamer's PSN UserID, which will prevent any other person from playing the full game without purchasing a new game disc, or digital copy from the PS Network.

If this is true, and if Microsoft follows suit, I'm giving up on console gaming and going soley to PC gaming. It is totally unfair to sell me a product and not give me the right to do whatever I wish with that product afterwards. Even if it is a copy of a product, it is my share of that product, which I should be entitled to without any sort of caveat or limitation set by the manufacturer. There are laws to prevent piracy, which I am not intending to insinuate I want to do with my games. This is a poor business plan, and I think this is going to spell out the end of the console game era.
 

Akamus

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At least spell the end of gaming on console's it's been proven a fact now that most Xbox users are using the console as a multimedia center now a days anyways. Hell it's what I us it for >.>;
 

moondoggy23

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Most people I know that own a PS3 use it as a Blu-Ray player more-so than gaming.

Another thing about this rumor that is bothering me is that you can buy a game for console and for a PC, and it's the same game. On a PC, you can download mods for the game to enhance or change the gameplay and make it more enjoyable without fear of reprisal from the publisher or developer for copyright infringement or defamation of intellectual property. If you hack a console to mod a game, you can be charged by the manufacturer, void the warranty, and potentially have your online account banned. PC gamers are given far more freedom with their copies of their games than console gamers are.
 

Melexiious

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I only use my Xbox for gaming,

I've been underhanded with online gaming, I never got to play on Xbox Live, I never had a computer that could play a good multiplayer well, minecraft classic was the first really. I never got to play TF2, Never got to play any Halo game on my Xbox online, only recently have I been able to play. My house is an old one, every plan I tried to get me access to the internet to my console failed, after about 16 failed attempts did I finally get it, and it's really makeshift.

But this? This is outrageous. If they honestly think this is a good thing then they are dead wrong. Hopefully by then I'll have a computer that I've built myself that can actually run games well, If I'm going to need to gwt a part-time job at least... that's something to do for the holidays.
 

xHallucinationx

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This next generation of consoles will be the last. They are bound to fail, and with the multiple uses of a computer, computer gaming will be on the rise.
 

TheXraptor

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This is outrageous!

So what the fuck am I supposed to do when I go "camping" in my RV, and my PS4 can't play because there is no fucking internet?


Also, WHAT IS WRONG WITH USED GAMES?
Back when I was a little kid, I'd always bring my memory cards and games to a friend's house, and have a good ole' time! What the fuck are we supposed to do now?

This next generation of consoles will be the last. They are bound to fail, and with the multiple uses of a computer, computer gaming will be on the rise.

Unfortunately, it will not. As long as their is a casual audience, there are console gamers. Even them, people from a hardcore audience will buy the consoles, because they don't know two things about PC gaming.
 

bbgunshot

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Also, WHAT IS WRONG WITH USED GAMES?

Retailers (Such as Gamestop) make pure profit off of used games. This means no money gets back to the publishers and developers. This means they won't have near as much money to make future games.
 

Ozy

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Staff member
I do not know if you missed the memo, but you can not trade titles purchased digitally from Steam. This model has been working just fine for years and PC games did it first.
 

TheXraptor

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Retailers (Such as Gamestop) make pure profit off of used games. This means no money gets back to the publishers and developers. This means they won't have near as much money to make future games.

Because obviously Sony and Microsoft have financial problems.....
 

bbgunshot

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Because obviously Sony and Microsoft have financial problems.....

Sony and Microsoft don't make games, they publish games. They also make money in ways other than just video games. It's 3rd parties who suffer. They're the people who make and publish 99% of games out there.
 

JerzeyLegend

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I do not know if you missed the memo, but you can not trade titles purchased digitally from Steam. This model has been working just fine for years and PC games did it first.

Weren't they working on a game trade system?
 

TheXraptor

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I do not know if you missed the memo, but you can not trade titles purchased digitally from Steam. This model has been working just fine for years and PC games did it first.

However, trading on the PC and trading on the consoles are two entirely different things.

With a console, you could just say "here bro, I don't really play this game anymore" and hand him the disc. I personally have donated many old games in the past, and sold some after class at school.

There has been a long history with trading cartridge/disc games, and I believe that the removal of the ability to do that is just unnecessary.
 

TheXraptor

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Sony and Microsoft don't make games, they publish games. They also make money in ways other than just video games. It's 3rd parties who suffer. They're the people who make and publish 99% of games out there.

Sony and Microsoft make the consoles.

Unless 3rd party companies threatened to not produce for their systems, I see no reason for either companies to do such a tremendous favor for 3rd party developers.
 

JerzeyLegend

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Sony and Microsoft make the consoles.

Unless 3rd party companies threatened to not produce for their systems, I see no reason for either companies to do such a tremendous favor for 3rd party developers.

To make 3rd parties happy, because they don't make money when you sell your game, they will do this. Most likely studios have been lobbying for DRM on consoles for some time now.

EA has the right idea. If you sell your game, and it contains a used code, you pay 800MSP to get online access to the game.

These corporations are always trying to take out small business. Mom and Pop video game stores which rely on such things will vanish, and rental places as well.

Just like tablets bastardizing the laptop business and my sales/services. Thats another story though.
 

xHallucinationx

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To make 3rd parties happy, because they don't make money when you sell your game, they will do this. Most likely studios have been lobbying for DRM on consoles for some time now.

EA has the right idea. If you sell your game, and it contains a used code, you pay 800MSP to get online access to the game.

These corporations are always trying to take out small business. Mom and Pop video game stores which rely on such things will vanish, and rental places as well.

Just like tablets bastardizing the laptop business and my sales/services. Thats another story though.
Not trying to get off topic, but how so does the tablet compete with laptops? I guess it's one thing I don't understand because I can only handle using a more superior in speed device.
 

JerzeyLegend

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Not trying to get off topic, but how so does the tablet compete with laptops? I guess it's one thing I don't understand because I can only handle using a more superior in speed device.

Because tablets are superior in speed because they are built for their purpose: Social networking, media, games.

Average Joe doesn't need a laptop, nor do they want lug one around today either. Soon augmented reality displays in glasses will replace tablets.
 

Kurtis

Active Member
From a business standpoint this will increase profit, as long as the Sony's target audiences doesn't suffer a significant decline due to the used games ban, and no backwards compatibility. As for Microsoft, I've been looking for info on the new console and I haven't seen anything similar to this. I doubt they would do this anyway.
 
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