The 2045 Initiative

First, one cannot replicate a human being. It is so complex that not only is it impossible to make a sort-of "android", if you will, but also "evolve" from a single cell. Second, the human race was created by the all-powerful God, but made in such a way no one can replicate it with robotics or DNA alterations or random chemicals exposed to an electric charge. So in conclusion, this will not happen for many years to come, let alone even happening at all.
Yay! Someone realizes it can't be replicated unless we're GOD! Woohoo! Yeah, you can always do this when you Jesus, but last time I checked your all's name was 2045 :p Yeah, I totally agree though, we can't really duplicate DNA, it's impossible unless we went to heaven and asked that it be done, which won't happen... Lol, other than that, I couldn't really understand what you said... :p
 
Please don't bring religion into this thread, we're discussing this in a scientific standpoint and petty rivalries with science vs god aren't needed here.
Yeah, I totally disagree with this post... For one, it's not 'petty', GOD is all-powerful, and plus, GOD invented science, so, yeah...
 

Patchouli

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Yay! Someone realizes it can't be replicated unless we're GOD! Woohoo! Yeah, you can always do this when you Jesus, but last time I checked your all's name was 2045 :p Yeah, I totally agree though, we can't really duplicate DNA, it's impossible unless we went to heaven and asked that it be done, which won't happen... Lol, other than that, I couldn't really understand what you said... :p
Yeah, I totally disagree with this post... For one, it's not 'petty', GOD is all-powerful, and plus, GOD invented science, so, yeah...
Don't get me wrong, I'm a christian, but yeah, the religion can stay out of this. Nothing about religion can say for sure if these things are not possible. Nowhere in the bible says "Thou shalt not clone thyself". So saying "This is impossible because religion. Discussion over" is a bit, well, shitty.
 
Don't get me wrong, I'm a christian, but yeah, the religion can stay out of this. Nothing about religion can say for sure if these things are not possible. Nowhere in the bible says "Thou shalt not clone thyself". So saying "This is impossible because religion. Discussion over" is a bit, well, shitty.
Okay, sorry... :unsure: Anyway, yeah, I still think it's impossible... But, it might happen, I just think it'll turn into a robot apocalypse, and rednecks aren't prepared for that :p They're just prepared for a zombie apocalypse, so, yeah... We won't be able to help ya with that one...
 

StTheo

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Interesting... Sounds pretty cool to me, how is it on language? And the rating said it had partial-nudity, so not sure if that's bad or not... And is there any blood and/or gore? I don't do well with blood/gore... It grosses me out a pretty good amount unless it's animal guts, in that case, I'm all for it! :D Anything else that'd gross me out in it?
Yay! Someone realizes it can't be replicated unless we're GOD! Woohoo! Yeah, you can always do this when you Jesus, but last time I checked your all's name was 2045 :p Yeah, I totally agree though, we can't really duplicate DNA, it's impossible unless we went to heaven and asked that it be done, which won't happen... Lol, other than that, I couldn't really understand what you said... :p
Yeah, I totally disagree with this post... For one, it's not 'petty', GOD is all-powerful, and plus, GOD invented science, so, yeah...
Use the "edit" button, please.
 

Serenity595

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EDIT: Wait... never mind... I matched the wrong Avatar descriptions. :p

So instead, when do you guys think realistically that Avatar A will be invented?
 

MagicForDummies

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EDIT: Wait... never mind... I matched the wrong Avatar descriptions. :p

So instead, when do you guys think realistically that Avatar A will be invented?

I'm thinking more along the lines of "Altered Carbon".

I doubt very much that the world will become like that, that soon. At most we'll have enough solar panels to put up with ever increasing energy demands and hopefully one in three households employ some sort of vertical farming technology for food.
 

TheGurw

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Question is: would you even want immortality? Sure, it sounds great at first. But give it a century or two and your mindset would drastically change. The brain isn't designed to live indefinitely. It has flaws and limitations.
I could argue that there were many people who lived to be more than 300 years old - but you'd have to believe the Bible for my statement to be relevant. Regardless, I will argue that the human brain would likely have far fewer flaws if we were all vegans and pollution wasn't a thing.


Also, I must say that this thread is very entertaining to read with people who are ignored constantly posting.
 

Serenity595

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I'm thinking more along the lines of "Altered Carbon".

I doubt very much that the world will become like that, that soon. At most we'll have enough solar panels to put up with ever increasing energy demands and hopefully one in three households employ some sort of vertical farming technology for food.
What decade do you think we'll see this technology for Avatar A implemented? I think it might be possible by the 2070s... maybe the 2060s.

I could argue that there were many people who lived to be more than 300 years old - but you'd have to believe the Bible for my statement to be relevant. Regardless, I will argue that the human brain would likely have far fewer flaws if we were all vegans and pollution wasn't a thing.
I think everyone can agree that humanity has been genetically degrading for thousands of years. This may explain why there have been accounts of people way back then living to very old ages, despite the lack of modern medical technology. The reason? They were genetically superior.
 

Pyrhos

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Yea, that could be true, and of how organic foods make people live longer, (Supersize Me anybody?) It would be difficult for humanity to all go vegan, unless the artificial flavours and foods somehow get corrupt so we cant eat it, unlikely
 

TheGurw

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What decade do you think we'll see this technology for Avatar A implemented? I think it might be possible by the 2070s... maybe the 2060s.


I think everyone can agree that humanity has been genetically degrading for thousands of years. This may explain why there have been accounts of people way back then living to very old ages, despite the lack of modern medical technology. The reason? They were genetically superior.
I wouldn't say genetically superior, though that's probably also partially true. I would say they had better lifestyles. For example, living without modern conveniences, everyone had to be much more physically active; even the nobles had a high level of physical activity in their daily routine - on the level that only professional athletes usually attain today. And of course there was a total lack of processed foods, so they ate much healthier as well. In addition, meat and other livestock-products were harder to get, so there was a very high level of veganism.
 

Serenity595

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I wouldn't say genetically superior, though that's probably also partially true. I would say they had better lifestyles. For example, living without modern conveniences, everyone had to be much more physically active; even the nobles had a high level of physical activity in their daily routine - on the level that only professional athletes usually attain today. And of course there was a total lack of processed foods, so they ate much healthier as well. In addition, meat and other livestock-products were harder to get, so there was a very high level of veganism.
While I think lifestyle did play a part, I do think genetics played a big part in it also. The less corrupted the gene pool, the healthier the life form ("healthy" as we see it today regarding diet and exercise as well as "healthy" in the sense that their organs could simply last longer).

It's the reason why you can have an extremely "healthy" (in the modern sense) person nowadays that only lives a few years past a century, maximum. Our genes hold us back.

I think I remember reading something about the law of entropy (or the second law of thermodynamics) that states that (or infers that) our entire universe is in a constant state of degradation. This, coupled with the first law of thermodynamics which states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, and essentially, you find the universe is existing on a time clock that will eventually count down to zero.
 
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