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Those Things in Gaming.......(Snipers)

TheXraptor

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Everyone has something in gaming that makes them extraordinarily angry. I myself am easily angered, and some things in gaming.....just need to go away.

Snipers. In Team Fortress 2. In Battlefield. Even in the dreaded Call of Duty. Snipers have absolutely no place in every online shooter that I can name. They don't help the team, they are annoying as fuck when they kill you, and every single sniper I can name thinks he is the best player ever BECAUSE he snipes.

If you've been under a rock since the dawn of First Person Shooter games, allow me to explain to you what a sniper is, and what he does. Snipers sit in an obscure corner of the map or window, zoom down their scope, and kill everything that happens to cross their sight with one instant killing bullet. While the sniper rifles in Team Fortress 2 may not be as overpowered as they are in other shooter games, snipers are still annoying as fuck. Not because they are overpowered in that game, but because every team I am ever placed on is FILLED with fucking snipers! Seriously, one....maybe two snipers is all we need! However, back on topic.

Battlefield: Bad Company 2. A great game (far, FAR superior to Battlefield 3, I might add). That game nearly got everything right. Except for one thing. Snipers are so ridiculously overpowered in that game. While they may not be as overpowered as the sniper rifles in MW2/MW2.5, they are still pretty fucking annoying. No shooter should encourage the player to sit in a bush far off from the battlefield and pick off random enemies. People argue that "HUUR, DEY R RECONZ, DEY GIVE US TEH RECONIZANCE!". I don't need recon, I need fucking bomb arming! I need flag capturing! It is even worse in hardcore mode, where there aren't even orange triangles to signal the enemies' position! Also, since the maps are the size of an entire fucking country, there is no way to get up close and blow his head off! However, small maps don't necessarily mean snipers are easy targets........

Snipers in Call of Duty. As a person who owns a laptop and plays his games primarily on a console, there is no avoiding this series. It is like a black hole that sucks you into a deep, dark, rage inducing nothingness. While Black Ops II looks to be the game that pulls the series out of the shitter, that doesn't correct all of the CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY its predecessors have committed. Every person who has played Call of Duty is familiar with the term "Quickscoper". Well, if you aren't familiar with the term, allow me to fill you in. Quickscopers are annoying 10 year olds who run around the map, sniper in hand, and abuse the auto-aim feature allowing their one hit kill sniper to be overpowered at every range (they aim into their scope very quickly, and chances are, the auto aim has zeroed the scope in right on the opponent's upper chest or head). It is unbelievably overpowered and it pisses me off.

However, snipers aren't just annoying in multiplayer.

Sniping missions in singleplayer (in ANY game) are the bane of my existence. I mean, you have to be UNBELIEVABLY precise, and have to be INHUMANLY quick. However, sniping missions don't have to be JUST sniping missions. In most instances, sniping missions are also stealth missions or worse, ESCORT MISSIONS. Fuck, why do I have to be the fucking guy with a sniper rifle, protecting my brain-dead teammates every time? Why do these things still exist? I mean, I want the name of the person who says "I WANTZ A SNIPING MISSION IN EVARY GAM EVAR MAID!".


So in conclusion, snipers have no place in almost every game ever made. I don't need that piss-chucking Australian from TF2, don't need the worthless statues who sit in bushes in Battlefield, and I DEFINITELY do not need whiny 10 year olds running around the map quickscoping people in Call of Duty.

Also, sniping missions need to die.



(I think I've done enough bitching for a while. Cities of the Past: HoboTown, coming next week).
 
I believe snipers are good support in most FPS team deathmatch games. The reason I say this is because there are just some places that snipers have a better advantage than lets say, people with smg's. Same thing other way around. People that "quick scope" or "no scope" just combine features with skill to get kills. Nothing cheap or anything. Snipers are very helpful!
 
I always felt a twinge of emptiness when I fired a sniper rifle [and actually hit]...
Side note: Tried quickscoping, can't do it. I need my eyes to register that someone just passed by my reticle and fuck, he's gone, now I gotta- oops, I died. [must be a "hardscoper"]
 
They aren't based on war for nothing. You're gonna have to deal with it. People have their own strengths and weaknesses, and some people are good at stealthy, long-ranged kills. Try to find some way to outsmart the enemy. Then you're set. For life.
 
5. Quickscoping is not easy. Some games do give you some assistance in aiming but usually if you have no skill at all this will not help you in the slightest.
6. As for BF3; Sniping in this game is not that easy. It is a more realistic view on sniping than a game such as TF2. As your breathing varies your view while scoped and the degree of accuracy needed is quite high, it makes it quite a degree higher in actual skill level.
7. "Snipers sit in an obscure corner of the map or window, zoom down their scope, and kill everything that happens to cross their sight". No. Whenever I play TF2 I always make sure to try and go out and actually get into the gameplay. Spawn sniping on trade servers is always fun and good for training speed but the real fun is getting really into the fight and using your different weapons dynamically (Yes guys, you can use other weapons apart from the rifle when playing sniper :p)
8. Take a second to actually consider the positives of sniping and how it does make gameplay better. Just because your sniping ability isn't that great or your tactics against snipers are not sufficient, don't go and shout at the world about it before you actually but in some effort to maybe learn some more about it or try to better yourself.

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1. Snipers are easy to defend against if you know how to. If there is a whole team of snipers in TF2 just go pyro, scout, soldier or spy. Alternatively go sniper and take them out.
2. "every single sniper I can name thinks he is the best player ever BECAUSE he snipes". Shutup. I know in some games sniping is often labelled as an "easy" class or a noob class. There is a difference though. I can usually handle myself against 5 or 6 moderately good snipers all at once in TF2. Occasionally there is one or two that are aimbot-esque that are harder to beat, but if you are actually skilled you can take them out.
3. Just because you might be a shit sniper don't rage on everyone who plays sniper. If you think it is an easy class to play then come and fight me in TF2 and you should be able to beat me. Saying that snipers do not belong in any multiplayer shooter is just an ignorant and extremely biased statement that has obviously not been thought through.
4. Don't ever, EVER insult the TF2 sniper. EVER.
 
I spent all my time on battlefield 2142 as a sniper, however in bf2142 snipers had incredible abilities like 'stealth' mode and the ability to lay small explosives. The sniper class is probably the most difficult however, it is also the slowest to level up in as you do not earn nearly as many points generally since it is a much slower paced form of gameplay. Also tf2 is gay as shit and none of this applies there
 
In real life, part of a sniper's job is the demoralization and stalling of enemy troop movements. Everything grinds to a halt when one of your buddies' head explodes due to an unseen and unlocateable force. Imagine the unbelievable stress a regular infantryman deals with knowing that one wrong corner, alley, doorway, or window leads to death. It's no wonder that a captured sniper would suffer the most horrendous torture and death imaginable. Such should be the atmosphere created in a FPS.

But in fast paced FPS games, however, that's not the case. There's none of this tension because lives are trivial. Respawning and cramped maps that offer no escape guarantee a bloodbath, where the chances of coming out unscathed is nil. As a consequence, there's no terribly large incentive to stay alive for long.

Sniping in games is also way too easy. I'm hard pressed to find a FPS where sniping is made more difficult by adding both bullet drop/travel time and windage. Aside from the Sniper Elite games, I've only seen this feature in the Delta Force series of games. Remove the tension of facing a sniper and the difficulty of being one transforms the typical FPS-sniper from a terrifyingly skilled player into an incredibly annoying, little braggart.

On a side note, movie snipers are always bad-ass. Remember Private Jackson from Saving Private Ryan?
 
@ooz in BF3 there was bullet drop. not had much experience as a sniper (ok, maybe some) as i was more often an engineer in a tank, pwning people :)
 
try running around quickscoping/noscoping around cs ;D now that's fun, once you've mastered that you can pretty much crown yourself king of the universe since epic recoil+no auto aim(which is for pussies), also i'm the king of teh universe
 
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