Like the New Windows 8?

RioDeal

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Everyone has there pros and cons
but from the research looking at reviews from big names a like PCworld, Cnet and The New York Times are giving a whopping thumbs down on windows 8. Plus many of the supports and updates will only be on the new windows 8. No new IE 10, gamers will be pissed since must motherboard's are only supporting windows 8 and the list goes on. So what are you gonna do? Keep your xp, vista and win7? avoid it until a next new os? switching to chromes os, Mac or Linux? I wanna hear your opinion
 
I've used XP for the longest time, mostly because I've feared that most of my outdated hardware wouldn't be supported on windows 7, and I don't have the money atm to build a brand new PC. I've used Windows 8 before and I don't like it. It's just an ugly new UI on top of windows 7 that I find unnecessary.

I have a suspicion that Microsoft is trying to weaken PC gaming because they want the Xbox 360 to thrive. Microsoft has demonstrated on many occasions how little they care about PC gaming, Games for Windows Live and this newest OS are shining examples of that. Whenever I build my next PC, I will probably use Linux. My hope is by then video game support for Linux will have grown to the point where it is more feasible to game only on a Linux based system. If not, then I'll probably partition my computer and run Linux and Windows 7 on it. Something like that.
 
I've used XP for the longest time, mostly because I've feared that most of my outdated hardware wouldn't be supported on windows 7, and I don't have the money atm to build a brand new PC. I've used Windows 8 before and I don't like it. It's just an ugly new UI on top of windows 7 that I find unnecessary.

I have a suspicion that Microsoft is trying to weaken PC gaming because they want the Xbox 360 to strive. Microsoft has said and demonstrated on many occasions how little they care about PC gaming, Games for Windows Live and this newest OS are shining examples of that. Whenever I build my next PC, I will probably use Linux. My hope is by then video game support for Linux will have grown to the point where it is more feasible to game only on a Linux based system. If not, then I'll probably partition my computer and run Linux and Windows 7 on it. Something like that.

Apparently Valve is getting into Linux because of Windows 8.
 
I wouldn't put too much weight behind anything coming from Valve/Gaben on this one. With Microsoft's windows 8 marketplace and Valves foray into non-game software, they are not direct competitors. Gabe saying that windows 8 sucks may be his honest opinion, but it may be him trying to throw his influence behind steam just to compete with microsoft.

The steam box would have happened whether windows 8 was a thing or not. It was the next logical progression of operating system.

That said, there are a lot of people who are down on windows 8. I'm not one of them, I've been using it for quite a while, and I have to say that it's not bad. I don't think it's worth an upgrade over windows 7 like I did, but at the same time, it's not worth flipping your shit if a new computer comes with it preinstalled.

TL;DR: Take anything Gaben says with a healthy grain of salt, and I don't mind windows 8.
 
Also, What motherboards only support windows 8? If there are any, that's probably more of a fault of the motherboard manufacturer than anyone else. I've never heard anything about this ever, and I've read like a million and a half hate articles for windows 8. The idea that microsoft is creating windows 8 to kill of gaming is completely ridiculous. Either they win because you use windows, or they win because you use xbox.
 
Windows 8 is a big pile of shit, nothing less and nothing more. When I get my new pc I'll probably go Linux or back to XP pro.
Enjoy all of the security vulnerabilities for using a 10+ year old operating system, or incompatibilities for gaming. You know what else people used to hate? Everything that was different than what was before it?

People complain when microsoft changes the ui. People would have complained if microsoft had kept the UI the same. People would have complained if they didn't come out with a new operating system. People would have complained no matter what, as there isn't really much left to do in the operating system market . Windows has reached a mature stage in development where there really aren't any more "Killer Features" they can add.

THINGS ARE DIFFERENT THAN THEY USED TO BE. YOUR START BUTTON IS INVISIBLE NOW. YOUNG PEOPLE USE CURSE WORDS.
 
I'm skeptical about Windows 8. Until it comes time where Win7 starts to be a problem, I won't change over.

7's pretty good in my book. It has many of the good things about Vista and many of the good things about XP. I still pine for XP after having used it for the bulk of my computing experience, but 7's not bad.

I think what Microsoft need to do next is offer another option, as it where.

Linux is out left-field. It's technical and hard to use but reaps benefits for those who can use it. It's an advanced product.
8 is a more simplified product which is more user-friendly, but that rustles the jimmies of those who have more advanced computing knowledge. People want to get more out of the system; they want more additions.
7's a median, as it where.
XP is professional but outdated.
And the Mac OS is very sleek but lacks oomph. It's also shit.

What Microsoft need to offer is a product that's more professional than 7 but easier to use than Linux. Like a 8 or a 7 without the bells and whistles but with more features and less bullshit. XP was good because (unlike Vista or 7) it didn't cover up background processes enormously, it was pretty sleek and you knew what was going on. Shit was straightforward.

So Microsoft can be offering three product choices: one that gives you a friendly UI for the non-tech-savvy (8 does this); one that's a median (7 does this); and one that is stripped away and more advanced (let's call this 9).

9 could be a Linux substitute. People like Windows inherently so it would sell.

....I'm talking shit but just some thoughts.
 
People complain when microsoft changes the ui.
They do, because they're people. People form habits to be more efficient.
That's why it's frustrating to learn to use a new GUI.
That's why removing a well-known GUI element that's been in existence for 17 years is met with anger.
That's why swapping key-bindings on a friend's game is a dick move.

People would have complained if microsoft had kept the UI the same.
Not really. They would want certain GUI elements fixed, or running more effectively. The majority did not ask for or want the GUI completely redesigned.

People would have complained if they didn't come out with a new operating system.
Again, not really. They would complain if the current OS didn't seem like an all-around upgrade compared to the last. That's why Vista was somewhat of a disappointment, while Windows 7 was wildly popular.

People would have complained no matter what,...
If by "people" you mean more than one individual, then you're analysis is as correct as it is irrelevant. We are referring to groups of people large enough to influence Microsoft's decision making.

...as there isn't really much left to do in the operating system market.
There is always something left to do, there are always things to improve upon without even touching the GUI.

Windows has reached a mature stage in development where there really aren't any more "Killer Features" they can add.
"Metro" is all I have to say here.

THINGS ARE DIFFERENT THAN THEY USED TO BE.
Things are more inefficient and harder to use than they used to be.

YOUR START BUTTON IS INVISIBLE NOW. YOUNG PEOPLE USE CURSE WORDS.
That would be fine if Microsoft was only trying to reach people unfamiliar with any of the past 17 years that the start button has been around for. Your comparison to young people using curse words doesn't make any sense.
 
I upgraded my PC from Vista to Win8 and I like it. It runs much faster than Vista had, and the extent to which I use my PC the only annoyance for me is the Metro-window-thing. It took all of about 10 minutes for me to get acclimated to not having a start menu, and if I really wanted, I could put shortcuts to all of my most-used programs on my desktop so I'd access them even faster than if there was a start menu. My biggest gripe thus far is I (stupidly) tied my Windows Live account to my PC, and I can't remember what that effing password is. One night I just banged on my keyboard (quite literally) until I could log into my PC and browse porn Team9000.net.
 
They do, because they're people. People form habits to be more efficient.
That's why it's frustrating to learn to use a new GUI.
That's why removing a well-known GUI element that's been in existence for 17 years is met with anger.
That's why swapping key-bindings on a friend's game is a dick move.


Not really. They would want certain GUI elements fixed, or running more effectively. The majority did not ask for or want the GUI completely redesigned.


Again, not really. They would complain if the current OS didn't seem like an all-around upgrade compared to the last. That's why Vista was somewhat of a disappointment, while Windows 7 was wildly popular.


If by "people" you mean more than one individual, then you're analysis is as correct as it is irrelevant. We are referring to groups of people large enough to influence Microsoft's decision making.


There is always something left to do, there are always things to improve upon without even touching the GUI.


"Metro" is all I have to say here.


Things are more inefficient and harder to use than they used to be.


That would be fine if Microsoft was only trying to reach people unfamiliar with any of the past 17 years that the start button has been around for. Your comparison to young people using curse words doesn't make any sense.

I know it's hard for you to admit, because it's really easy to say that "They'll think of something" but there wasn't really a huge demand for anything in the operating system market that wasn't in windows 7, and with the changing desktop market and, let's face it many many people are moving away from using their traditional computers to using strictly their phones and tablets. They're talking that in 2013 more tablets will be sold than notebooks. If microsoft doesn't come out with a new operating system, the OEM's complain, because typically they see a jump in sales when a new os comes out. Right now is a critical time for computers, because the market competition with tablets and smartphones. This was an attempt to provide the same experience across three devices (smartphone, tablet, PC). Can you think of one glaring feature that was missing in windows 7 that they should have used in windows 8? Because I can't. When I say that it's reached a mature stage of development, I mean that they've implemented pretty much all of the features people want, made them reasonably stable and usable, and there aren't many new features that they can add. People forget all of the security and speed improvements included in windows 8.

If microsoft had kept everything the same, including the UI people would have complained about windows 8 being a service pack, with nothing really different. People for years have been calling microsoft an organization which is incapable of doing any kind of innovation now. A company which is simply going to milk their cash cow until the market doesn't want it anymore.

All of the people complaining about the UI change are ridiculous. It's like saying that something microsoft put together 17 years ago was the correct and only way to do things. And for the record, it hasn't changed my workflows at all.

1. Hit windows key (Or start button, which is totally still there just invisible until you hover you mouse),
2. If the program you want doesn't have an icon in the metro menu (Which is really just a start menu made full screen, and instead of a list you have redigned icons, called tiles),
3. then you type in what you want and select it from a list

To do the same thing in windows :7
1. you hit the start key.
2. If the program you want isn't one of your most frequently used programs,
3. Then you type in what you want and select it from a list.

I could give less of a damn about the usability studies, as most of that is speculation at best and Their main argument is summarized, as follows: "The situation is much worse on regular PCs, particularly for knowledge workers doing productivity tasks in the office. This used to be Microsoft's core audience, and it has now thrown the old customer base under the bus by designing an operating system that removes a powerful PC's benefits in order to work better on smaller devices." Basically, what they're saying is that, windows 8 is horrible on the pc because most of the people who use it have blindly memorized how to perform all of their tasks, and are unwilling to relearn how to do things. I think saying it removes the benefits of PC by designing to work better on smaller devices is bullshit. A smaller OS footprint is neber a bad thing, and the fact that the UI is consistent across multiple platforms will improve usability for anyone using those, which is likely part of what prompted this from micorsoft.

Have you even used it? And I don't mean you touched it at a store and decided it was terrible, I mean really used it for your every day tasks?
 
I upgraded my PC from Vista to Win8 and I like it. It runs much faster than Vista had, and the extent to which I use my PC the only annoyance for me is the Metro-window-thing. It took all of about 10 minutes for me to get acclimated to not having a start menu, and if I really wanted, I could put shortcuts to all of my most-used programs on my desktop so I'd access them even faster than if there was a start menu. My biggest gripe thus far is I (stupidly) tied my Windows Live account to my PC, and I can't remember what that effing password is. One night I just banged on my keyboard (quite literally) until I could log into my PC and browse porn Team9000.net.
One of my favorite things about windows 8 is how much better the search has gotten for settings. If you bring up the start menu, and type in "Microsoft Account" the option to disassociate your windows account from your microsoft account is possible, as I did it already.
 
You can switch to a local account instead of using a Windows Live account. Using the Live account will let you sync across PCs. Honestly, Metro was fun for a day or two, and I don't use it anymore.

Purchase Start8 and your life will be whole again. It's $4.99 and it is GREAT! I was skeptical at first, but now that the trial is up (I'm buying it today) my life sucks again.

Windows 8 is more aesthetically pleasing to me, I like the flat non-opague colors and straight square edges. It is faster, and I like being able to pause file transfers. More system control and information. There are zero compatibility issues.

Metro should be one of those options you can turn off, perhaps even someone has invented something to do so by now, but it's not a game changer.

Snap definitely comes in handy, especially for emails and messenger, since I get FB messages on it.

So all complaints seem to be forwarded towards Metro... install Start8 and shut up. All of your other complaints are PEBKAC.
 
Turned off Metro, used Stardock's Start8 app and haven't looked back. Can't say I really notice a lot of difference between Win 7 and 8 but I'll probably stick with 8 as I haven't come across any deal breakers and all my games/apps run just fine. Actually one improvement I have noticed is that Chrome doesn't seem to crash like it did on Windows 7 when it was left open with the T9K Survival Map for hours on end. Under Windows 7, I would consistantly get crashes every half hour to hour - and I don't run any funky plugins beyond AdBlockPlus. Found I would have similar issues with Firefox, except that it would just run out of memory after awhile. With Win8, I have left maps running for hours on end without any issues. And yes, I had done a clean install of 7 and the same issue popped up.
 
Windows 8 should have just been a service pack for windows 7 with all the performance improvements minus the start menu. The flat style can stay. The start menu reminds me of a bad port of an XBOX game to the PC with a horrible UI. It doesn't consider that mice are more precise than fingers and don't need giant buttons or large swipes across 24 inch screens.
 
I don't like windows 8 not for any actual logical reasons but, I hate that start page. It reminds me of when I had a window's phone and it sucked badly. I'll stick with 7 until it gets simple and not all cheesy trying to be user friendly. The last thing we need is a person with a rock in their skull knowing how to use a computer.
 
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