Haven just wants to control the world and play creative mode. Just sayin'.
Look guys, you aren't the server. There hasn't been much discontent about a wipe from anyone except Haven. You certainly are not the majority of the server. Other people cannot even begin to have fun on the server, and don't want to join a town (Your standard excuse of letting yourselves get more time in to build whatever you want, things that nobody other than you really cares about), so you'll enslave them, have them mine you diamonds so you can claim the rest of the land on the map?
Also, sorry if this makes anyone unhappy, this is just my opinion on some parts of Haven. Also, forgive any grammar/ conventions errors, I just woke up.
From this, I'm going to guess nobody from Haven has ever been around to tell you just how wrong you are, so your opinions have gone unchecked for longer than most.
We don't want creative-mode because we like to work for our creations, it's just the way we are. Just sayin'.
Look, we know we aren't the server. Just because our town holds more of the long-standing members than any other town doesn't mean we think we are.
There hasn't been much discontent about a wipe from anywhere else because most of everyone else isn't mature enough to realize that there's a metric shit-ton still to do in this map. Also, nobody else has put in as much time building as the Haven members, so nobody else has as much attachment to this map.
I don't even know what you mean that people can't begin to have fun. What the fuck is that about? It's easy to begin to have fun. Start building like you would on any other server. Eventually, join a town or start your own. We usually suggest joining a town because it's generally more fun for everyone involved.
Our standard excuse? I don't even. That doesn't even make sense. Of course the things we build are only cared about by ourselves. Do you think we give half a shit what you build either? The answer is no, of course. Yeah, we want time to build what we want to build (duh?); if you don't, then you don't seem to understand the point of Minecraft. Perhaps GMod is more your pace?
We'll mine our own diamonds, thanks. Nobody who joins our town is forced to do anything other than build something awesome. The town's stores are maintained by volunteers, our funds are donated, and we don't follow any particular theme. My build is an entirely empty plot (on the surface)!
Yes, we would like to claim more land. Why? We need more room for awesome builds. NOT because we want to take over the server, that's not a serious thing. It's a running joke, and if you take it seriously you need to get out more. Yeah, we had one hostile takeover with someone who decided to found his town where we were planning to expand (there was an offered peaceful option, his own fault that he didn't take it), and we gave him fair compensation in the end anyway. Yeah, we had quite a few hostile discussions with another town that decided to destroy a landscape near us for the sake of building a skull; but we like our view as beautiful as the builds near it (ie. not looking like TNT grief).
And yes, we have a lot of pride. Yes, we're often arrogant. Yes, we're quite a bit like an old boys' club. We have a reason to be. Take a walk through Haven and look at the beauty. The awesome. The epic. We hold most of the server's talented builders, most of the dedicated miners, and most of the long-time members of the community. Not many towns can claim to have absolutely zero non-aesthetically pleasing builds. Not many towns can claim to have more than one member who has mined for 18 hours straight on a regular basis. Not many towns can claim to have more than 5 "well-known members" in their roster.
Am I opposed to a wipe? No. Am I clamoring for one? Also no. I don't think a wipe is what this server needs right now. I think it would be a good thing though. Give it a month or two before a wipe.
A?? grr! never got the chance to play that one on multiplayer